so much nostalgia from this episode. My fragrances were gap grass and ck one. I remember the feeling of always needing to be effortlessly perfect, like trying to be everything all at the same time, but also looking like you weren’t trying at all. I also remember going to GNC in the mall and stealing the caffeine pills and eating those for breakfast. eeep
thanks for what y’all do. I can never get enough 💋
This made me think of the broader mainstream culture’s disapproval of Courtney Love & Hole, Fiona Apple, even Sarah McLachlan and more: they were labeled as “uncool” “bad” or “promiscuous” because they refused to be merely an object for the male gaze, pissed off or imperfect publicly
This was so timely as I just finished reading Sofia Gilbert’s Girl on Girl last night.
The conversation about these influences is so layered and goes very deep. I used to be dismissive thinking I may be too old (50)? And/or followed alternative influences. Like it resonates more with millennials, so much of it has to do with a pop culture that I was simply not tuned into (online life, blogging, reality tv, VS, etc) and therefore I wasn’t as overtly impacted in my formative years. But as Gilbert and you both illustrate, these cultural narratives influenced, shaped, informed the larger culture (and reciprocally) whether I consciously felt directly impacted or not, they reflect the water in which we all swim and shaped the world we now live in.
This gave me so much to think about! As someone who graduated high school in 1994 and college in 1998, it's impossible for me to collapse "the nineties" into one cultural moment. We had these exciting artists and movements--e.g., riot grrl, the alt-rock explosion, Tori Amos, Lilith Fair, Alanis, Lauryn Hill--and the musical and media landscape was brutal to just about every woman who dared to get famous. The ascension of Abercrombie and the marketing of teenage girl singers in the late '90s felt very much like a backlash. Like there was a secret crisis meeting to decide what to do about all these chicks in Birkenstocks.
I love this podcast, and Amanda and Tracy. They are so funny, intelligent and insightful, and listening to them talk, even about topics that are infuriating, makes me feel hopeful. 🫶🏼
so much nostalgia from this episode. My fragrances were gap grass and ck one. I remember the feeling of always needing to be effortlessly perfect, like trying to be everything all at the same time, but also looking like you weren’t trying at all. I also remember going to GNC in the mall and stealing the caffeine pills and eating those for breakfast. eeep
thanks for what y’all do. I can never get enough 💋
Omg CK One! Having flashbacks now
This made me think of the broader mainstream culture’s disapproval of Courtney Love & Hole, Fiona Apple, even Sarah McLachlan and more: they were labeled as “uncool” “bad” or “promiscuous” because they refused to be merely an object for the male gaze, pissed off or imperfect publicly
Totally
This was so timely as I just finished reading Sofia Gilbert’s Girl on Girl last night.
The conversation about these influences is so layered and goes very deep. I used to be dismissive thinking I may be too old (50)? And/or followed alternative influences. Like it resonates more with millennials, so much of it has to do with a pop culture that I was simply not tuned into (online life, blogging, reality tv, VS, etc) and therefore I wasn’t as overtly impacted in my formative years. But as Gilbert and you both illustrate, these cultural narratives influenced, shaped, informed the larger culture (and reciprocally) whether I consciously felt directly impacted or not, they reflect the water in which we all swim and shaped the world we now live in.
So true
This gave me so much to think about! As someone who graduated high school in 1994 and college in 1998, it's impossible for me to collapse "the nineties" into one cultural moment. We had these exciting artists and movements--e.g., riot grrl, the alt-rock explosion, Tori Amos, Lilith Fair, Alanis, Lauryn Hill--and the musical and media landscape was brutal to just about every woman who dared to get famous. The ascension of Abercrombie and the marketing of teenage girl singers in the late '90s felt very much like a backlash. Like there was a secret crisis meeting to decide what to do about all these chicks in Birkenstocks.
Hah so true!
I love this podcast, and Amanda and Tracy. They are so funny, intelligent and insightful, and listening to them talk, even about topics that are infuriating, makes me feel hopeful. 🫶🏼
Aw love this! Thanks so much for listening.
Ah thank you so much!! We love that you’re listening!! ♥️
“I don’t care if she shoplifts” 🤣🤣 same, from mom of teen and tween girls 🤣
Like, we have bigger fish to fry!