Thanks to everyone who tuned into our Substack Live.
After our episode on WWE and UFC masculinity, we knew we wanted to talk with
, a fantastic journalist covering sports, gender, and queerness. They also write the Out of Your League newsletter—definitely go subscribe.We talked about queer wrestling leagues, the heteropolitics of combat sports, UFC’s “alpha male” culture, Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson’s masculine balancing act, and why WWE is “a drag brunch for straight people.” Also: there was a special appearance by Frankie’s very cute dogs.
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