Thanks to everyone who tuned into our Substack Live.
After our episode on mothering boys and men, we knew we had to talk with
, an organizer, podcaster, and writer covering politics, race, gender, class, and how we show up for each other. Garrett’s book The Right Kind of White, about his own reckoning with being “good,” is a must-read, and his newsletter, The White Pages, is full of compassionate, thoughtful, and timely essays on topics like punditry, feeding each other, and of course, men hosting potlucks.You should also check out Garrett’s new podcast,
, which he co-hosts with friend of the pod .We talked about trad culture as kink, backlash politics, how straight white male pundits play on gender-coded beliefs about male reason to armchair politics, and how media coverage of the so-called crises men are experiencing tends to be infantilizing and lacking in true empathy. We also discussed protecting kids of all genders from gendered projection, warrior masculinity, and online exploitation, and what terrifies us most as parents (hint: it has to do with the patriarchy, the trap we’re all in).
Garrett leaves birthday decorations up all year long, so even though we talked about some serious stuff, it was a party!
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